Manawatu Harness Racing Club Inc
Tuesday, 24 February
Meeting: Manawatu End Feb Two Day Meeting (Twilight 1)
Last updated 20/02/2026 at 17:01 pm
- Race Number:
- Race 6
- Race Time:
NZB STANDARDBRED SUPPORTS NI BREEDERS HCP TROT
$11,000, 3YO & OLDER R39 TO R52 DISCRETIONARY HANDICAP, 2000m
For R39 to R52 3yo-&-older trotters. The winner will get a rating penalty free win if 4YO and older, and driven by a Junior Driver, and has not previously won a rating penalty free race this season.
| Notifiable Gear Changes: Kaipaki Jack: SL-On Legend |
- Breeding:
- 11 b m Rock N Roll Heaven-Highview Diamond(by Red River Hanover) [Highview Idol 15m(American Ideal)]
- Owners:
- D J Cossey, N J Coxon
- Breeder:
- L K Strong, Mrs J Strong

Starts
118
Wins
11
Seconds
16
Thirds
19
Lifetime Stakes
$140,152
Winning Stakes
$75,475
Win Dividend
$1.11
Place Dividend
$1.07
| Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Weather | 102 | 8 | 30 | All Weather Slushy | 4 | 2 | 1 |
| Grass | 16 | 3 | 5 | Grass Wet | 3 | 0 | 2 |
| Course | 24 | 4 | 6 | Distance | 15 | 2 | 4 |
| Favourite | 10 | 2 | 4 | 2nd Favourite | 16 | 0 | 5 |
| Mobile | 7 | 0 | 3 | Standing | 111 | 11 | 32 |
| Left | 104 | 10 | 33 | Right | 14 | 1 | 2 |
| Fresh90 | 5 | 1 | 1 | Fresh30 | 5 | 1 | 0 |
Wins:
Race Starts (Last 10)
E Johnson
2 days
72nd up
3YO+ R39 to R67 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2500m
Fast
5/6
Kink
MR:2-03.8
59.8
5.9L
Slw,6th inr,6-bk,5-bk,off,wdst,bold
HIGHVIEW ROCKN ROLL - slow early.
E Johnson
6 days
71st up
3YO+ R39 to R50 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Fast
5/5
Tinkerbelle
MR:2-04.2
59.4
2.2L
Slw,5th inr,4-bk bell,3-bk,off,late
K Coppins
15 days
70th up
R35 to R39 TROT Stand
2200m
Good
2/1
Caviar Noire
MR:2-04.0
59.9
8.8L
Slw,8th,4-bk otr 800,wd 400,fght on
HIGHVIEW ROCKN ROLL - slow early.
K Coppins
2 days
69th up
R38 to R45 TROT Stand
2000m
Good
3/3
Nazareth
MR:2-08.9
60.4
48L
Brk early,paced,out of commission
HIGHVIEW ROCKN ROLL - broke shortly after the start then settled in a pace losing all chance.
K Coppins
16 days
68th up
R39 to R45 TROT Stand
2000m
Good
4/7
Itmusclebelove
MR:2-12.5
63.8
3.3L
9th otr,5-bk 800,wdst top,stout fin
HIGHVIEW ROCKN ROLL - Driver K Coppins was warned for the manner in which she shifted ground near the 850m which placed inside runners in restricted room briefly.
E Johnson
15 days
67th up
NON-WINNERS & Up to R50 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Slow
3/2
Koko Kaboom
MR:2-11.4
2.8L
4th,prkd,lost ld dig,ld top,run dwn
HIGHVIEW ROCKN ROLL - trotted roughly over the concluding stages and was unable to be fully driven out by driver E Johnson.
E Johnson
7 days
66th up
3YO+ R41 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Good
9/10
Manchester In Time
MR:2-02.5
60.1
3rd inr,brk badly 1900m,pulled up
HIGHVIEW ROCKN ROLL - broke entering the first turn losing all chance then settled in a pace before being retired from the event. A warning was placed on the mare's racing manners.
T Hall
R35 & faster MOB. TROT
2200m
Good
Jasinova
MR:2-09.9
E Johnson
2 days
65th up
R42 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2500m
Fast
6/5
Johnny Who
MR:2-02.3
61.2
124L
Trld gap,brk 2nd 1600,out of action
HIGHVIEW ROCKN ROLL - broke near the 1650m losing all chance. Stood down to trial to the satisfaction of Stewards on one occasion prior to resuming.
E Johnson
12 days
64th up
R43 to R66 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Fast
8/8
Koko Kaboom
MR:2-03.7
61.0
163L
Brk badly early in trail,out of it
HIGHVIEW ROCKN ROLL - broke entering the first turn and settled in a pace before breaking again losing all chance. Broke again near the 1200m when trailing the field. A warning was placed on the mare's racing manners.
- Breeding:
- 6 b g Father Patrick-Margaritaville(by S J's Photo) [Bohemian Rhapsody 8m(Muscle Hill), Quik Shot 9g(Andover Hall), Rakero Ace 5g(Father Patrick), Thank You 11g(Love You)]
- Owners:
- B K Ellis, R A Sawtell, J P Hurley, Mrs N K Peni
- Breeder:
- Studholme Bloodstock Limited, Kahukuri Bloodstock Limited

Starts
49
Wins
5
Seconds
7
Thirds
6
Lifetime Stakes
$59,983
Winning Stakes
$33,000
Win Dividend
$0.99
Place Dividend
$1.00
| Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Weather | 47 | 5 | 13 | All Weather Slushy | 5 | 1 | 1 |
| Grass | 2 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Course | 4 | 0 | 1 | Distance | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| Favourite | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2nd Favourite | 6 | 0 | 1 |
| Mobile | 10 | 1 | 2 | Standing | 39 | 4 | 11 |
| Left | 36 | 2 | 12 | Right | 13 | 3 | 1 |
| Fresh90 | 5 | 2 | 1 | Fresh30 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Wins:
Race Starts (Last 10)
H Orange
2 days
12th up
3YO+ R39 to R67 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2500m
Fast
8/8
Kink
MR:2-03.8
59.8
6.5L
Soon ld,trld 1900,angled top,stout
H Orange
21 days
11th up
3YO+ R39 to R50 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Fast
8/7
Tinkerbelle
MR:2-04.2
59.4
2.3L
Out best to dictate,kicked,run down
H Orange
2 days
10th up
R38 to R45 TROT Stand
2000m
Good
11/11
Nazareth
MR:2-08.9
60.4
9.6L
3-bk otr,1x1 1400,flat 600,bttld on
H Orange
18 days
9th up
R39 to R45 TROT Stand
2000m
Good
7/6
Itmusclebelove
MR:2-12.5
63.8
15L
Brk,6th inr,3-bk,off 900,no pick-up
ORDAINED - broke briefly at the start. Weakened late in the run home.
H Orange
7 days
8th up
3YO+ Up to & including R40 TROT Stand
2200m
Slushy
4/4
Saninarmbro
MR:2-12.9
60.2
Straight to ld,walked them,held on
H Orange
20 days
7th up
3YO+ R35 to R45 SpecHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Good
7/6
Conrad H
MR:2-05.6
60.6
38L
Blew the start,out of commission
ORDAINED - broke at the start losing all chance.
H Orange
7 days
6th up
3YO+ R35 to R40 TROT Stand
2200m
Good
2/1
Grace N Elegance
MR:2-05.9
59.8
4.3L
Trld out,chkd 350,off,fght well mid
ORDAINED - hampered by a breaking runner near the 300m.
C Hackett
13 days
5th up
4YO+ R35 to R45 MOB. TROT INV J
2200m
Good
2/2
Emily Bay
MR:2-00.6
60.7
13L
11th otr,6-bk,held up,no final kick
ORDAINED - when questioned regarding the performance Driver C Hackett was unable to offer an explanation for the disappointing effort other than the gelding may derive benefit from the race.
H Orange
4 days
4th up
3YO+ R35 to R45 SpecHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Fast
9/6
Brienne
MR:2-07.0
60.7
0.3L
Ld out,trld 1600,thru,strong on inr
- Breeding:
- 7 br g Love You-Maysoon(by Sundon) [Chloe Rose 9m(Muscle Hill), Imran Khan 13g(Pegasus Spur), Mdina 11m(Monarchy)]
- Owners:
- R A Butt, O P Ryan, Mrs A L Ryan, G A Ayers, Mrs L N Ayers, C K Neiman, Mrs K A Neiman, Mrs N Butt, Miss T Butt
- Breeder:
- Mrs J A Butt
- Movement:
- Domiciled at Palmerston North with Stephen Doody

Starts
46
Wins
6
Seconds
1
Thirds
4
Lifetime Stakes
$119,108
Winning Stakes
$95,975
Win Dividend
$1.23
Place Dividend
$0.58
| Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Weather | 37 | 5 | 2 | All Weather Slushy | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Grass | 9 | 1 | 3 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Course | 2 | 0 | 0 | Distance | 14 | 2 | 1 |
| Favourite | 9 | 1 | 4 | 2nd Favourite | 7 | 0 | 1 |
| Mobile | 10 | 2 | 1 | Standing | 36 | 4 | 4 |
| Left | 43 | 6 | 5 | Right | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Fresh90 | 6 | 2 | 2 | Fresh30 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
Wins:
Race Starts (Last 10)
B Wilkins
2 days
17th up
3YO+ R39 to R67 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2500m
Fast
1/4
Kink
MR:2-03.8
59.8
109L
9th otr,wd 1600,brk 1200,out of it
NAZARETH - trotted roughly in the early and middle stages. Raced wide for a distance through the middle stages before breaking near the 1200m losing its chance.
B Wilkins
15 days
16th up
3YO+ R39 to R50 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Fast
1/3
Tinkerbelle
MR:2-04.2
59.4
5.3L
Rear otr,wd 300,wdst rear,beat slws
NAZARETH - when questioned regarding the performance Driver B Wilkins stated that this runner had trotted roughly rounding the final turn having to be steadied however she was pleased with the manner in which the gelding had finished the event off in the run home.
Z Butcher
6 days
15th up
R46 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2600m
Good
5/5
Paramount Kiwi
MR:2-14.2
62.3
1.8L
4th inr,4-bk,prkd,cvr 1200,wd,stout
A Poutama
2 days
14th up
R38 to R45 TROT Stand
2000m
Good
5/5
Kink
MR:2-08.9
60.4
Ld out,trld 1400,off,breezed on by
NAZARETH - Driver A Poutama reported he did not activate the removable deafeners due to having the field covered.
J Abernethy
17 days
13th up
R45 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Good
9/8
Forgiveness
MR:2-11.9
65.2
65L
Slow,8th inr,brk 1600,out of action
NAZARETH - raced over track markers entering the first turn and then broke losing all chance.
C Butt
18 days
12th up
R35 to R59 SpecHcp TROT Stand
2600m
Slushy
9/9
Tyrons Strapping Lad
MR:2-10.0
61.7
12L
Wd,6th otr,1x1 2000,rough,no pickup
NAZARETH - trotted roughly in the run home.
R Butt
2 days
11th up
R51 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2600m
Good
8/9
Rachmaninov
MR:2-07.2
61.2
58L
4th,5-bk inr,prkd 1900,flat 600 out
NAZARETH - weakened from the 600m.
H Douglas
6 days
10th up
4YO+ R45 to R55 TROT JUN.D Stand
2000m
Fast
8/8
One Over Da Line
MR:2-02.2
58.9
30L
Slow,9th,4bk otr,brk 350,done
NAZARETH - slow to begin. Broke near the 350m losing all chance.
C Dalgety
13 days
9th up
3YO+ R40 to R50 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2500m
Good
3/3
Tyrons Strapping Lad
MR:2-05.6
59.8
Stood on the mark,no hope,pulled up
NAZARETH - fractious prior to the start. Stood on the mark at the start losing all chance. A warning was placed on the barrier record of the gelding.
2YO+ SpecHcp TROT Stand
2170m
Good
Big Al
MR:2-19.3
58.0
- Breeding:
- 7 b g Love You-Riviera Lass(by The Pres) [Love And Faith 8m(Love You)]
- Owners:
- W D Latham, Mrs C J Latham, G R Bradley, M S Bradley
- Breeder:
- W D Latham, Mrs C J Latham
- Gear:
- SL-On

Starts
36
Wins
4
Seconds
3
Thirds
3
Lifetime Stakes
$69,723
Winning Stakes
$51,700
Win Dividend
$0.79
Place Dividend
$0.79
| Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Weather | 35 | 4 | 6 | All Weather Slushy | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Grass | 1 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Course | 1 | 0 | 1 | Distance | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| Favourite | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2nd Favourite | 2 | 1 | 0 |
| Mobile | 0 | 0 | 0 | Standing | 36 | 4 | 6 |
| Left | 25 | 2 | 6 | Right | 11 | 2 | 0 |
| Fresh90 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Fresh30 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
Wins:
Race Starts (Last 10)
S Abernethy
11 days
23rd up
R35 to R50 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Fast
3/4
Barsukov
MR:2-06.7
58.7
8.1L
7th otr,4-bk,wd cvr 700,steady wdr
TWO FRANCS - pre-race warmed. Lay inwards rounding the bends. Raced greenly and became awkwardly placed close to the sulky of KAIPAKI JACK when CONRAD H was shifting inwards near the 650m and struck the sulky wheel which punctured. Stewards questioned drivers L Neal (TWO FRANCS) and B Wilkins (CONRAD H) and after hearing explanations from both drivers Stewards could not apportion full blame to either horse or driver and took the matter no further. Trotted roughly final bend.
S Abernethy
26 days
22nd up
R46 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2600m
Good
6/7
Paramount Kiwi
MR:2-14.2
62.3
1.8L
3rd inr,3-bk 2300,off,held up,stout
KAIPAKI JACK - held up throughout the run home.
P Ferguson
22 days
21st up
3YO+ R49 to R63 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Slushy
6/6
Walkinonsunshine
MR:2-03.3
57.1
42L
Ld out,3-bk 1700,brk 350m,no hope
KAIPAKI JACK - broke near the 350m losing all chance.
P Ferguson
12 days
20th up
R43 to R66 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Fast
5/3
Koko Kaboom
MR:2-03.7
61.0
2.1L
5th,4th inr bell,3-bk 400,sound inr
S Abernethy
13 days
19th up
R46 to R52 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Good
5/5
Trippy Tyron
MR:2-05.4
61.4
0.1L
5th inr,3-bk,off,blkd,bold late mid
KAIPAKI JACK - held up for clear running until near the 40m.
S Abernethy
43 days
18th up
3YO+ R50 to R82 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Fast
6/6
Crackerjack
MR:2-03.9
59.1
9.7L
Trld out,4-bk 1300,plggd away gap
S Abernethy
7 days
17th up
R44 to R56 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Good
3/2
Johnny Who
MR:2-01.1
58.6
48L
Prkd,eased,4-bk inr,1x1,rough,faded
KAIPAKI JACK - weakened rounding the final bend and broke briefly near the 350m. A post-race veterinary examination revealed no obvious abnormalities.
S Abernethy
14 days
16th up
R46 to R63 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Good
5/4
Romeo Foxtrot
MR:2-05.2
58.8
4L
4th inr,3-bk 1900,bttld on solidly
F Schumacher
14 days
15th up
R41 to R57 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Good
3/1
Hayley Mhor
MR:2-04.5
59.1
5L
4th inr,1x1 1100,wd 375m,bttld away
KAIPAKI JACK - hampered by a breaking runner near the 300m.
- Breeding:
- 6 b m Father Patrick-Beg For Chevron(by Love You) [Request 4m(Muscle Mass)]
- Owners:
- Mentally Stable Limited, D J Butt, Mrs C M Butt
- Breeder:
- Small Car World Ltd, Birchbrook Breeding Ltd

Starts
57
Wins
7
Seconds
5
Thirds
3
Lifetime Stakes
$93,020
Winning Stakes
$63,250
Win Dividend
$1.58
Place Dividend
$0.72
| Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Weather | 45 | 6 | 8 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Grass | 12 | 1 | 0 | Grass Wet | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Course | 2 | 0 | 0 | Distance | 16 | 4 | 2 |
| Favourite | 7 | 1 | 1 | 2nd Favourite | 9 | 2 | 3 |
| Mobile | 11 | 3 | 1 | Standing | 46 | 4 | 7 |
| Left | 53 | 7 | 8 | Right | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| Fresh90 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Fresh30 | 4 | 1 | 2 |
Wins:
Race Starts (Last 10)
W House
6 days
54th up
R46 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2600m
Good
7/6
Paramount Kiwi
MR:2-14.2
62.3
Blew to bits early,pulled up
FORGIVENESS - broke shortly after the start losing all chance and was retired from the event.
K Coppins
2 days
53rd up
R44 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Good
7/5
Halberg
MR:2-09.0
61.5
38L
Left prkd,cvr 1450,3-bk,chd/brk 7th
FORGIVENESS - hampered by a breaking runner near the 700m and broke in consequence losing all chance.
K Coppins
19 days
52nd up
R45 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Good
8/9
Halberg
MR:2-11.9
65.2
Wd,3-bk inr,trld 750,thru,too sharp
FORGIVENESS - checked by a breaking runner near the 800m.
W House
19 days
51st up
R46 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2500m
Dead
6/6
Rachmaninov
MR:2-15.1
61.4
2.7L
3-4th,prkd 1400,1x1 650,off,steady
H Orange
2 days
50th up
R42 & faster DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2500m
Fast
5/6
Johnny Who
MR:2-02.3
61.2
18L
5th inr,4-bk,1x1 1100,brk 6th 200m
FORGIVENESS - broke near the 200m losing its chance. A warning was placed on the mare's racing manners.
H Orange
12 days
49th up
R43 to R66 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Fast
6/5
Koko Kaboom
MR:2-03.7
61.0
33L
Slw away,brk 950m 7th,out of action
FORGIVENESS - slow early. Broke near the 950m losing all chance.
M White
34 days
48th up
R46 to R52 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Good
2/2
Trippy Tyron
MR:2-05.4
61.4
1.4L
Wd,6th otr,1x1,wd 400,bold effort
B Singh
R50 & faster TROT Stand
2500m
Fast
Belle Neige
MR:2-06.3
58.6
M White
15 days
47th up
3YO+ R49 to R54 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2200m
Fast
7/8
Higher Power
MR:2-05.0
58.5
8L
Brk,rear inr,off,failed to spark wd
FORGIVENESS - broke at the start losing considerable ground.
- Breeding:
- 7 br g Love You-Rondo(by Dr Ronerail) [Lola 11m(Monarchy), Set Me Free 9m(Peak), So Mystifying 6m(Father Patrick), You Really Got Me 10g(Love You)]
- Owner:
- R G Dickson
- Breeder:
- D R Lauren, Dr P J Gerard, S L McCaffrey

Starts
37
Wins
5
Seconds
3
Thirds
5
Lifetime Stakes
$46,491
Winning Stakes
$28,763
Win Dividend
$0.68
Place Dividend
$1.14
| Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Weather | 25 | 3 | 7 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Grass | 12 | 2 | 1 | Grass Wet | 3 | 1 | 0 |
| Course | 3 | 1 | 1 | Distance | 10 | 2 | 5 |
| Favourite | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2nd Favourite | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Mobile | 1 | 0 | 0 | Standing | 36 | 5 | 8 |
| Left | 37 | 5 | 8 | Right | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Fresh90 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Fresh30 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Wins:
Race Starts (Last 10)
M Hay
2 days
9th up
3YO+ R39 to R67 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2500m
Fast
3/3
Highview Rockn Roll
MR:2-03.8
59.8
7th otr,prkd,cvr 1450,wd 500,kicked
KINK - Driver M Hay reported he did not activate the removable deafeners due to having the field covered.
M Hay
15 days
8th up
3YO+ R39 to R50 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2000m
Fast
4/2
Tinkerbelle
MR:2-04.2
59.4
1.2L
5th,prkd,cvr 1350,wd cvr 300,strong
KINK - Driver M Hay reported that he elected not to activate the deafeners as he was reluctant to place the gelding under undue pressure given that he felt he had no chance of catching the winner.
M Hay
6 days
7th up
R42 to R45, R46 with cond. TROT Stand
1800m
Good
4/3
Very Majestic
MR:2-12.2
63.0
Ld out,set all terms,kicked,too big
M Hay
2 days
6th up
R38 to R45 TROT Stand
2000m
Good
4/4
Nazareth
MR:2-08.9
60.4
2L
Wd,into ld 1400,dictated,gunned dwn
M Hay
10 days
5th up
R39 to R45 TROT Stand
2000m
Good
12/12
Itmusclebelove
MR:2-12.5
63.8
4.4L
Brk,7th,1x1,prkd 1250,chall,outfin
KINK - broke shortly after the start but soon settled.
M Hay
25 days
4th up
NON-WINNERS & R41 to R70 DiscrHcp TROT Stand
2500m
Good
5/5
Koko Kaboom
MR:2-04.5
62.2
4.1L
3rd gap,3-bk inr,5th 600,steady mid
KINK - lay in contacting track markers on various occasions during the running, in particular rounding the final turn despite the efforts of Driver M Hay. Mr Hay advised he had not activated the removable deafeners as a consequence and would be recommending gear changes.
J Curtin
11 days
3rd up
3YO+ R41 to R50 SpecHcp TROT Stand
2600m
Good
14/13
Wilma's Boy
MR:2-09.5
60.8
Paced away,broken up,pulled up
KINK - paced away at the start losing all chance and was retired from the race.
J Curtin
10 days
2nd up
3YO+ R35 to R45 SpecHcp TROT Stand
2600m
Good
10/10
Waterloo Station
MR:2-05.2
59.7
20L
Brk early 1x1,rear inr,passed slows
KINK - broke rounding the first bend losing ground. Trotted roughly near the 600m losing ground.
S Tomlinson
351 days
1st up
3YO+ R44 to R45, R46 to R49 with cond. TROT Stand
2170m
Good
12/12
Rachmaninov
MR:2-04.2
59.6
43L
7th pegs,off,brk 800m,brk 300 out
KINK - broke near the 800m losing ground. Broke again near the 300m losing all chance.