Auckland Trotting Club Inc
Friday, 22 March
Meeting: Northern Oaks/Northern Derby/Young Guns (NORTHERN OAKS/NORTHERN DERBY/YOUNG GUNS)
Last updated 22/03/2024 at 21:15 pm
- Race Number:
- Race 6
- Race Time:
PASCOES THE JEWELLERS NORTHERN OAKS MOB PACE (Gr1)
$102,300, 3YO FILLIES MOBILE, 2700m
For 3-year-old pacing fillies.
Notifiable Gear Changes: Treacherous Baby: BL-Off, SL-On Legend |
- Breeding:
- 3 b f Downbytheseaside-Jessies Girl(by Bettor's Delight) [Seasider 4g(Downbytheseaside)]
- Owners:
- Summit Bloodstock Pty Ltd, Aaron Bain Racing Pty Ltd, Miss J S Browne, M Dedini, J Roberts, B Fitzgerald, J de Mamiel, J Kontis, Mrs M Smith
- Breeder:
- Woodlands Stud (NZ) Ltd
- Comment:
- Sound last week and likely to get a cushy run from the ace tonight. Best needed.
Starts
8
Wins
4
Seconds
1
Thirds
1
Lifetime Stakes
$246,220
Winning Stakes
$234,158
Win Dividend
$3.69
Place Dividend
$1.95
Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
All Weather | 8 | 4 | 2 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Grass | 0 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Course | 4 | 2 | 1 | Distance | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Favourite | 3 | 2 | 0 | 2nd Favourite | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Mobile | 8 | 4 | 2 | Standing | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Left | 4 | 2 | 1 | Right | 4 | 2 | 1 |
Fresh90 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Fresh30 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
Wins:
Race Starts (6 of 11)
M White
28 days
8th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Slushy
3/3
All You Need Is Me
MR:1-58.5
57.7
5.3L
Made ld,trld 1600,chkd,trld,fght on
COASTAL BABE - checked near the 1500m by a breaking runner.
M White
7 days
7th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Fast
1/2
Kiss
MR:1-59.1
56.1
Straight to ld,dictated,just enough
M White
84 days
6th up
3YO+ F&M Up to & including R60 MOB. PACE
1700m
Fast
3/3
Artisan
MR:1-56.6
58.5
0.8L
Eased,rear otr,1x1 1200,wd,bold fin
M White
35 days
5th up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1980m
Fast
1/1
Our Shangri Lana
MR:1-58.4
60.0
2.4L
Found trail,took lane,honest inr
M White
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1980m
Good
Melody Banner
MR:2-01.1
57.2
S Reid
R38 & faster MOB. PACE
2000m
Good
Onedin Miki
MR:2-02.9
56.8
- Breeding:
- 3 b f Captaintreacherous-Adore Me(by Bettor's Delight) [Darling Me 6m(Sweet Lou), Forever Me 4m(Sweet Lou), Remember Me 5m(Captaintreacherous), Sweet On Me 7m(Sweet Lou)]
- Owner:
- Charles Joseph Limited
- Breeder:
- Charles Joseph Limited
- Movement:
- Domiciled at Pukekohe with Derek Balle
- Comment:
- Too smart despite putting in a few rough ones, 15 Mar. Drawn to advantage. Rates
Starts
6
Wins
5
Seconds
1
Thirds
0
Lifetime Stakes
$92,450
Winning Stakes
$89,350
Win Dividend
$2.48
Place Dividend
$1.43
Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
All Weather | 6 | 5 | 1 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 1 | 0 |
Grass | 0 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Course | 2 | 2 | 0 | Distance | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Favourite | 4 | 3 | 1 | 2nd Favourite | 2 | 2 | 0 |
Mobile | 6 | 5 | 1 | Standing | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Left | 4 | 3 | 1 | Right | 2 | 2 | 0 |
Fresh90 | 1 | 1 | 0 | Fresh30 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Wins:
Race Starts (6 of 13)
C J Dalgety
7 days
6th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Slushy
1/2
Duchess Megxit
MR:1-58.5
57.7
Prkd,ld 1600,brk,held ld,too strong
ALL YOU NEED IS ME - hung in entering and then rounding the first turn forcing an inside runner to race over track markers on several occasions despite the efforts of Driver C Dalgety. Broke and stumbled near the 1500m checking trailing runners but quickly recovered. A warning was placed on the filly's racing manners. Connections advised that ALL YOU NEED IS ME cast the off fore shoe in this incident.
C J Dalgety
15 days
5th up
3YO+ R49 to R60 MOB. PACE
2200m
Fast
1/1
Always B Elite
MR:1-58.2
56.1
Speared to ld,set terms,untroubled
ALL YOU NEED IS ME - Driver C Dalgety reported that he hadn't activated the deafeners due to having the field covered.
C J Dalgety
11 days
4th up
3YO+ F&M R40 to R55 MOB. PACE
1980m
Fast
2/1
Princess Meritaten
MR:1-55.6
57.4
Gate spd,ld 1700,kickd,too smart
ALL YOU NEED IS ME - lay outwards in the score up hampering outside runner.
C J Dalgety
16 days
3rd up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1609m
Easy
1/1
Ruby Roe
MR:1-55.8
56.8
0.1L
Gt spd,parkd,1x1 800,just nabd
ALL YOU NEED IS ME - a post-race veterinary examination at the request of the connections revealed the filly had cross-fired during the running and was treated for an abrasion to the left front knee.
C J Dalgety
14 days
2nd up
3YO+ R50 to R58 MOB. PACE
1980m
Fast
2/2
Tide And Time
MR:1-56.6
58.0
Trld the trip,angld out tn,comfy
C J Dalgety
1st up
NON-WINNERS 3YO+ MOB. PACE
2400m
Good
1/1
Twista
MR:2-01.0
58.7
Up,ld 2000,trld 1500,thru,smart
- Breeding:
- 3 b f Art Major-Hi Ho Silver Lining(by Badlands Hanover) [Charm Offensive 6m(Bettor's Delight), Master Stride 5h(Captaintreacherous), Nota Lada 13g(Mach Three), Rub Of The Green 12g(Mach Three), Silvia 8m(Art Major), Te Mahia 10g(Somebeachsomewhere), Your Good Fortune 15g(Bettor's Delight)]
- Owners:
- Mrs M J Kingsbury, M E Kingsbury
- Breeder:
- Tardina Stud Limited
- Movement:
- Domiciled at Clevedon with Matthew White
- Comment:
- Bold Alex Park debut last week and should receive every opportunity. Quins/Tris.
Starts
7
Wins
2
Seconds
2
Thirds
2
Lifetime Stakes
$32,915
Winning Stakes
$22,000
Win Dividend
$0.66
Place Dividend
$1.14
Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
All Weather | 7 | 2 | 4 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 0 | 1 |
Grass | 0 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Course | 1 | 0 | 1 | Distance | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Favourite | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2nd Favourite | 1 | 0 | 1 |
Mobile | 7 | 2 | 4 | Standing | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Left | 6 | 2 | 3 | Right | 1 | 0 | 1 |
Fresh90 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Fresh30 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Wins:
Video | Date / Club / Race Desc / Barrier Draw in brackets and horse time |
---|---|
03/23 Rivertn TC 2YO Fillies MOB. PACE 1609m (3) 3/4 length 2-01.8 | |
03/23 Nth Sthlnd 2YO MOB. PACE 2200m (4) 1 1/4 lengths 2-50.6 |
Race Starts (6 of 9)
N Williamson
9 days
5th up
3YO+ R50 to R59 MOB. PACE
2200m
Slushy
4/4
Jolimont
MR:2-02.1
57.1
2.3L
Ld out,trld 1900,thru,fght hard inr
C Ferguson
24 days
4th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2000m
Good
3/3
Ruby Roe
MR:1-57.9
55.6
0.8L
Gt spd,led,trail,solid bid lane
C Ferguson
51 days
3rd up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1609m
Easy
3/3
Ruby Roe
MR:1-55.8
56.8
2.2L
Bk otr,last,thru mid 400,nice fin
FLYING ELLIE - held up early in the run home.
C Ferguson
8 days
2nd up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Good
3/3
Treacherous Baby
MR:1-58.6
59.0
1.3L
Followd 1x1,drag up 400,nice wider
C Ferguson
278 days
1st up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1609m
Good
2/2
Ruby Roe
MR:1-54.9
56.6
1.3L
Wide,pressd 2 lead,fght on well
FLYING ELLIE - raced wide early.
C Ferguson
8 days
2nd up
2YO MOB. PACE
2200m
Good
1/1
Always Ticking
MR:2-04.7
58.2
Gt spd,trail,retook,too powerful
FLYING ELLIE - shifted up the track abruptly near the 200m when driver C Ferguson released the removable deafeners, hampering outside runners. A warning was placed on the racing record of the filly.
- Breeding:
- 3 b f Art Major-Better B Amazed(by Bettor's Delight)
- Owners:
- Stonewall Stud Ltd, Stonewall Stud No.20 Syndicate
- Breeder:
- Stonewall Stud Ltd
- Comment:
- Dropped out a week ago after a clincial win here 2 weeks early. Take on trust.
Starts
9
Wins
2
Seconds
3
Thirds
1
Lifetime Stakes
$35,073
Winning Stakes
$16,500
Win Dividend
$0.64
Place Dividend
$1.74
Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
All Weather | 9 | 2 | 4 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Grass | 0 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Course | 8 | 2 | 3 | Distance | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Favourite | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2nd Favourite | 1 | 1 | 0 |
Mobile | 9 | 2 | 4 | Standing | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Left | 1 | 0 | 1 | Right | 8 | 2 | 3 |
Fresh90 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Fresh30 | 1 | 0 | 1 |
Wins:
Race Starts (6 of 10)
J Dickie
14 days
4th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Slushy
7/7
All You Need Is Me
MR:1-58.5
57.7
109L
Trld,3-bk,chkd,3-bk inr,btn 500 out
AKATEA - placed in restricted room and raced over a track marker entering the first turn. Raced over several other track markers when again placed in restricted room rounding the first turn. Checked near the 1500m by a breaking runner. Weakened from the 500m. A post-race veterinary examination revealed no abnormality.
B Butcher
7 days
3rd up
3YO+ Up to & including R49 MOB. PACE
1700m
Fast
2/2
Twista
MR:1-57.0
57.8
Soft run mrks,thru,too many barrels
AKATEA - lay out throughout the run home, despite the efforts of Driver B Butcher, placing an outside runner in restricted room near the 60m.
J Dickie
28 days
2nd up
3YO+ R46 to R50 MOB. PACE
2200m
Fast
1/2
Minjee
MR:1-59.5
58.4
0.2L
Beaut trip otr,off tn,closed boldly
J Dickie
126 days
1st up
3YO+ F&M Up to & including R54 MOB. PACE
1609m
Fast
1/3
Kiss
MR:1-57.2
58.1
6.5L
5th tor,1x1,prkd 1100,outkicked str
AKATEA - when questioned regarding the performance Driver J Dickie could only attribute the disappointing performance to racing without cover from the 1100m in what was the filly's first race back from a spell.
A Harrison
22 days
5th up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Fast
7/7
Coastal Babe
MR:1-56.6
57.3
2.1L
5th ir,4-bk,off,wd cvr,bold fin wdr
AKATEA - Connections advised Stewards on 4 December that the filly has had a fetlock treated since having last raced.
A Harrison
14 days
4th up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1700m
Fast
1/2
Kiss
MR:1-57.0
58.5
2.7L
Prkd,into trail bell,thru,fght mrks
AKATEA - when questioned regarding the performance Driver A Harrison stated that she was satisfied with the run given that the filly had been required to work to obtain the lead mid-race before then taking a trail.
- Breeding:
- 3 b f Captaintreacherous-Arden Caviar(by Rocknroll Hanover) [Captain Nemo 6h(Captaintreacherous), Pearl Harbour 7m(Somebeachsomewhere), Toe The Line 5g(Betting Line)]
- Owners:
- F J Price, K V Price
- Breeder:
- F J Price, Mrs K V Price
- Movement:
- Domiciled at Clevedon with Matthew White
- Comment:
- Ran a bottler when finding the line attractively last week. Danger to the fave.
Starts
6
Wins
4
Seconds
0
Thirds
1
Lifetime Stakes
$45,648
Winning Stakes
$36,850
Win Dividend
$1.65
Place Dividend
$1.28
Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
All Weather | 6 | 4 | 1 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 0 | 1 |
Grass | 0 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Course | 1 | 0 | 1 | Distance | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Favourite | 3 | 3 | 0 | 2nd Favourite | 2 | 1 | 0 |
Mobile | 6 | 4 | 1 | Standing | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Left | 5 | 4 | 0 | Right | 1 | 0 | 1 |
Fresh90 | 1 | 1 | 0 | Fresh30 | 2 | 2 | 0 |
Wins:
Race Starts (6 of 7)
N Williamson
9 days
6th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Slushy
4/4
All You Need Is Me
MR:1-58.5
57.7
3.7L
8th otr,wd 6th 300,closed strongly
RUBY ROE - hampered near the 1500m.
N Williamson
24 days
5th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2000m
Good
1/1
Melody Banner
MR:1-57.9
55.6
Last,3w,parkd 1200,loomd,classy
N Williamson
51 days
4th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1609m
Easy
2/2
All You Need Is Me
MR:1-55.8
56.8
Bk otr,3w drag 500,charged late
N Williamson
8 days
3rd up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Good
2/2
Treacherous Baby
MR:1-58.6
59.0
5.2L
Parkd,urgd lead,v green,trial,batld
RUBY ROE - raced wide early. Raced greenly passing the 1500m when attempting to obtain the lead. Again, raced greenly near the 1300m when attempting to pull up and shifted out, forcing TREACHEROUS BABY wider on the track and hampering a trailing runner. Continued to race greenly near the 1000m hampering trailing runners. A warning was placed on the racing record of the filly.
N Williamson
35 days
2nd up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1609m
Good
1/1
Flying Ellie
MR:1-54.9
56.6
Gt spd,led,trail,zipped inner
- Breeding:
- 3 br f Ultimate Machete-Motu Racy Girl(by In The Pocket) [Kipchoge 5g(Sportswriter), Miss Hartley 8m(Bettor's Delight), Motu Hot Topic 9m(Bettor's Delight), Turkish Trousers 10m(Bettor's Delight), Vanquished 11h(Bettor's Delight)]
- Owner:
- Mrs K J Purdon
- Breeder:
- Alabar (NZ) Ltd
- Comment:
- Did the best she could from wide marble, 15 Mar. Will require a tow into it here
Starts
11
Wins
1
Seconds
4
Thirds
4
Lifetime Stakes
$84,497
Winning Stakes
$8,250
Win Dividend
$0.13
Place Dividend
$1.29
Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
All Weather | 11 | 1 | 8 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Grass | 0 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Course | 8 | 1 | 6 | Distance | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Favourite | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2nd Favourite | 2 | 0 | 2 |
Mobile | 11 | 1 | 8 | Standing | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Left | 3 | 0 | 2 | Right | 8 | 1 | 6 |
Fresh90 | 2 | 0 | 2 | Fresh30 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
Wins:
Video | Date / Club / Race Desc / Barrier Draw in brackets and horse time |
---|---|
01/24 Auckland NON-WINNERS 3YO+ F&M MOB. PACE 1609m (5) 3/4 length 2-01.5 |
Race Starts (6 of 11)
C Hackett
28 days
9th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Slushy
9/9
All You Need Is Me
MR:1-58.5
57.7
4.4L
9th otr,5-bk,wd rear 450,stout wdst
Z Butcher
7 days
8th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Fast
3/3
Coastal Babe
MR:1-59.1
56.1
0.2L
1x1,wd,prkd 1050,fght on resolutely
Z Butcher
14 days
7th up
3YO+ F&M Up to & including R60 MOB. PACE
1700m
Fast
2/2
Artisan
MR:1-56.6
58.5
1.7L
Trld,3-bk 1400,off,stout effort mid
SEASIDE ROSE - raced keenly middle stages. Raced over the final track marker in the run home after having been shifted inwards by ULTIMATE RACY GIRL. After speaking with Driver J Dickie who advised his filly may have over-reacted, no further action was deemed necessary.
Z Butcher
70 days
6th up
NON-WINNERS 3YO+ F&M MOB. PACE
1609m
Fast
1/1
Pandora
MR:2-01.4
58.0
5th otr,1x1 1200,wd 350,ld 175,held
A Herlihy
35 days
5th up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1980m
Fast
4/4
Our Shangri Lana
MR:1-58.4
60.0
9.7L
Soon prkd,no cvr,urgd tn,felt pinch
- Breeding:
- 3 b f Captaintreacherous-O Baby(by Christian Cullen) [Beachbabebeauty 9g(Somebeachsomewhere), Lightning Baby 4m(Bettor's Delight), Mo'unga 5g(Bettor's Delight), Yea Baby 6m(Somebeachsomewhere)]
- Owners:
- B J Whitelock, Mrs C J Whitelock
- Breeder:
- B J Whitelock, Mrs C J Whitelock
- Movement:
- Domiciled at Pukekohe with Ray Green
- Gear:
- BL-Off, SL-On
- Comment:
- Solid without threatening to win of late and draw makes it tough. Minors best.
Starts
13
Wins
2
Seconds
2
Thirds
3
Lifetime Stakes
$59,231
Winning Stakes
$19,800
Win Dividend
$0.35
Place Dividend
$0.84
Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
All Weather | 13 | 2 | 5 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Grass | 0 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Course | 5 | 0 | 1 | Distance | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Favourite | 5 | 2 | 1 | 2nd Favourite | 3 | 0 | 1 |
Mobile | 13 | 2 | 5 | Standing | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Left | 8 | 2 | 4 | Right | 5 | 0 | 1 |
Fresh90 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Fresh30 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Wins:
Race Starts (6 of 11)
Mark Purdon
14 days
13th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Slushy
5/6
All You Need Is Me
MR:1-58.5
57.7
6.9L
6th otr,3-bk 1450,wd 450,bttld on
TREACHEROUS BABY - hampered near the 1500m.
N Rasmussen
14 days
12th up
3YO+ R51 to R56 MOB. PACE
1700m
Fast
2/2
Jolimont
MR:1-59.6
56.2
1.8L
Eased,rear otr,wdst top,useful late
TREACHEROUS BABY - over-raced when being restrained to the rear rounding the first turn.
N Rasmussen
7 days
11th up
3YO+ R52 to R59 MOB. PACE
2200m
Fast
5/4
We Walk By Faith
MR:1-57.0
56.0
1.5L
5th inr,4-bk,off to ld 1300,run dwn
Mark Purdon
49 days
10th up
3YO+ F&M Up to & including R60 MOB. PACE
1700m
Fast
1/1
Artisan
MR:1-56.6
58.5
2L
5th otr,left prkd 1250,fght on well
O Thornley
R46 to R69 MOB. PACE
2000m
Good
Chase A Dream
MR:1-59.9
57.2
Mark Purdon
12 days
9th up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Good
1/1
Flying Ellie
MR:1-58.6
59.0
Gt spd,led,trail,chkd,retook,2 big
TREACHEROUS BABY - forced wider on the track near the 1300m.
- Breeding:
- 3 b f Sweet Lou-Kensington Kate(by Bettor's Delight)
- Owners:
- Patterson Bros Racing Syndicate, Centaurus Syndicate, Par Then Bar Racing Syndicate, Elton's John Syndicate
- Breeder:
- M J Ward
- Comment:
- Best of #2's rivals last week after facing the breeze. May need to again; quins.
Starts
7
Wins
3
Seconds
3
Thirds
1
Lifetime Stakes
$99,579
Winning Stakes
$75,969
Win Dividend
$1.06
Place Dividend
$0.89
Starts | Wins | Placings | Starts | Wins | Placings | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
All Weather | 7 | 3 | 4 | All Weather Slushy | 1 | 0 | 1 |
Grass | 0 | 0 | 0 | Grass Wet | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Course | 6 | 2 | 4 | Distance | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Favourite | 5 | 3 | 2 | 2nd Favourite | 2 | 0 | 2 |
Mobile | 7 | 3 | 4 | Standing | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Left | 1 | 1 | 0 | Right | 6 | 2 | 4 |
Fresh90 | 1 | 1 | 0 | Fresh30 | 2 | 0 | 2 |
Wins:
Race Starts (6 of 8)
Z Butcher
14 days
7th up
3YO Fillies MOB. PACE
2200m
Slushy
2/1
All You Need Is Me
MR:1-58.5
57.7
3.6L
4th inr,prkd 1450,stuck tenaciously
DUCHESS MEGXIT - hampered near the 1500m.
Z Butcher
14 days
6th up
3YO+ F&M Up to & including R70 MOB. PACE
2200m
Fast
Artisan
MR:2-00.1
55.8
Eased,rear inr,1x1 900,off,clinical
Z Butcher
68 days
5th up
3YO+ R52 to R59 MOB. PACE
2200m
Fast
2/2
We Walk By Faith
MR:1-57.0
56.0
1.1L
6th,left prkd,cvr 1050,wd,stern fin
Z Butcher
10 days
4th up
2YO Fillies MOB. PACE
1980m
Good
1/1
Treacherous Baby
MR:1-56.3
57.9
3bk otr,4bk 900,swoopd 4wd tn,easy
DUCHESS MEGXIT - raced greenly and shifted inwards having to be straightened by driver Z Butcher near the 150m.
Z Butcher
20 days
3rd up
2YO+ F&M Up to & including R54 MOB. PACE
1700m
Fast
1/1
Acushla Machree
MR:1-57.1
55.7
0.1L
Left prkd thru'out,tough bid,denied